Credit raise

Bernd Machenschalk
Bernd Machenschalk
Joined: 15 Oct 04
Posts: 2,684
Credit: 25,950,161
RAC: 34,820
Topic 13610

We're still working on getting a grip to the large runtime variation that came up with splitting up the sky in S5R3 (it was averaged out in the "all-sky" search in S5R2).

However we found that on average we were still awarding too little credit compared to other projects recently, so we decided to raise the credit by 7%.

Note that due to server-assigned credit this will only affect newly generated workunits, so it will take some time to propagate through to your statistics.

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Bernd Machenschalk
Bernd Machenschalk
Joined: 15 Oct 04
Posts: 2,684
Credit: 25,950,161
RAC: 34,820

Credit raise

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We're still working on getting a grip to the large runtime variation that came up with splitting up the sky in S5R3 (it was averaged out in the "all-sky" search in S5R2).

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Yep, I don't run monster caches (0.5 days currently), so I have seen the boost already.

Few more of questions regarding S5R3;

1.) Have you worked up a TauWU pdf for it like you did for S5R2?

2.) Was anything done to address the problem of sending longer running results to hosts which are reporting with their CPCS that they can't make the deadline even if run solo on EAH flat out?

3.) Do the longer running results still have a three week deadline rather than two? Along this line are you still considering variable deadlines?

Alinator


We are still not capable of even correctly anticipating this variation.

Personally I would rather be in favor of flattening the variation by measurements in the App than to react to the variation with deadlines and credits, but I still don't know whether this would be possible.

At a meeting that covers next week all relevant people (including the authors of the code in question) will be at one table, I hope things get sorted out then.

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Bernd Machenschalk
Bernd Machenschalk
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RE: I also agree that

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I also agree that getting better feedback from the hosts would ideal to assist with making the determination. That would most likely make things somewhat easier as you make refinments to the analysis in the future without having to worry about the impact on scoring as much.


We need some more information, but I doubt that it can be provided by participants. It would probably need some additional code in the Apps to write out some traces, and something on the server side to follow them. Anyway, this is something we are still working on, and we hope to make some progress next week.

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Bernd Machenschalk
Bernd Machenschalk
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Credit: 25,950,161
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RE: Oh yes, it would have

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Oh yes, it would have to be instrumentation built into the app. Hosts don't lie, but participants might. ;-)


No, it's not about lying. It's about getting the relation right between certain properties of the workunit and dynamically calculated parameters in the App that affect the runtime. At the very moment, neither of these is visible to the participants, and even to us only when running under a debugger (or with an amount of debug output that would fill up your harddisk). We see the sinewave over all workunits of a given frequency band, but it's still hard to predict the phase, which would be important for a specific WU.

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